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* [[Wizard's Den]]: Always off-limits, do not board or render it uninhabitable as a regular crew member.
* [[Wizard's Den]]: Always off-limits, do not board or render it uninhabitable as a regular crew member.
* [[Listening Post]]: Going over there at the start of the round 'just in case' is not welcome. You are free to pursue and engage known operatives, and may follow them into the station if you're in the possession of an [[Syndicate Items#Agent Card|agent card]], but don't camps there, wall the post off, bolt the door shut, lie in ambush with your pod or the like. Provided that a reasonable amount of time has passed and if nuke can safely be ruled out as the current round type, non-antagonists are also allowed to visit the station under those circumstances. These restrictions don't apply to other [[antagonist]]s, since nuke ops don't appear in the same game mode as traitors/vampires/etc.
* [[Listening Post]]: Going over there at the start of the round 'just in case' is not welcome. You are free to pursue and engage known operatives, and may follow them into the station if you're in the possession of an [[Syndicate Items#Agent Card|agent card]], but don't camps there, wall the post off, bolt the door shut, lie in ambush with your pod or the like. Provided that a reasonable amount of time has passed and if nuke can safely be ruled out as the current round type, non-antagonists are also allowed to visit the station under those circumstances. These restrictions don't apply to other [[antagonist]]s, since nuke ops don't appear in the same game mode as traitors/vampires/etc.
* [[Syndicate Shuttle]]: Always off-limits. The operatives can't do much if the crew decides to camp out here.
* [[Syndicate Shuttle]]: Always off-limits.


Other examples of what not to do:
Other examples of what not to do:


* As a [[Security Officer|security officer]] or [[Detective|detective]], you immediately roam around the maintenance tunnels to sniff out traitors and scream your brains out describing what's occurring. Generally, give things at least a few minutes to brew or wait for radio calls to respond to.
* As a [[Security Officer|security officer]] or [[Detective|detective]], you immediately roam around the maintenance tunnels to sniff out traitors and scream your brains out, describing what's occurring. Generally, give things at least a few minutes to brew or wait for radio calls to respond to.


* As an [[AI]], you find a suspicious person walking around and decide to lock them into a room and scream for security to arrest them, refusing to let them out for any reason. This one is most definitely not okay, and will be violating your laws if that person or anybody else orders you to open up. Your laws can be stretched but not broken like this, and it's just really shitty anyway.
* As an [[AI]], you find a suspicious person walking around and decide to lock them into a room and scream for security to arrest them, refusing to let them out for any reason. This one is most definitely not okay, and will be violating your laws if that person or anybody else orders you to open up. Your laws can be stretched but not broken like this, and it's just really shitty anyway.
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* As a [[Heads of staff|head of staff]], you decide to take all of the [[Computer Core|AI modules]] and hide them to prevent people from using them. Obvious antagonists can be targeted with laws, but only if they're already causing havoc or the AI and [[Cyborg|cyborgs]] are getting in your way.
* As a [[Heads of staff|head of staff]], you decide to take all of the [[Computer Core|AI modules]] and hide them to prevent people from using them. Obvious antagonists can be targeted with laws, but only if they're already causing havoc or the AI and [[Cyborg|cyborgs]] are getting in your way.


Overall, this generally boils down to the fact that you shouldn't talk about the current round outside of the game and you shouldn't start off the round by doing things whose only purpose is to screw over the bad guys. Doing reasonable things like an AI bolting its upload or a [[Captain|captain]] trying to hide the fukken disk in his box are okay, but otherwise acting as though you're not expecting to be brutally murdered in four minutes will make things more enjoyable when things do start to happen. Use your judgement and if most people think it's metagaming, then don't do it or risk everyone's wrath. People really hate this.
Overall, this generally boils down to the fact that you shouldn't talk about the current round outside of the game and you shouldn't start off the round by doing things whose only purpose is to screw over the bad guys. Doing reasonable things like an AI bolting its upload is okay, but otherwise acting as though you're not expecting to be brutally murdered in four minutes will make things more enjoyable when things do start to happen. Use your judgement and if most people think it's metagaming, then don't do it or risk everyone's wrath. People really hate this.


Lots of people on the Goonstation servers like to keep a persistent name, character and/or gimmick running round after round. It may be easy to target them for actions taken in previous rounds, but don't do it. That's metagaming too. '''If the person is a shitlord for ten straight rounds, adminhelp it instead of trying to deal with it in-game.'''
Lots of people on the Goonstation servers like to keep a persistent name, character and/or gimmick running round after round. It may be easy to target them for actions taken in previous rounds, but don't do it. That's metagaming too. '''If the person is a shitlord for ten straight rounds, adminhelp it instead of trying to deal with it in-game.'''

Revision as of 08:46, 25 May 2015

Metagaming is a cardinal sin in round-based, role-playing games like SS13. It come in several flavours:

Out-of-game communication

Don't communicate with other players outside of the game.

Chatting on Skype with your bros is OK, but relaying or talking about IC information with your friends forbidden. Don't tell them you are a traitor, gang up together to kill people, call for help over TeamSpeak if you are attacked etc. Even telling your buddies that you're dead is trouble - after all, what kind of friend wouldn't try to come to your rescue?

A huge part of the gameplay of SS13 hinges on lies and deception, and that goes all to hell when you've effectively got two pairs of eyes and ears. If you want to communicate with another player, use the radio, PDA messaging or the mail system (nobody uses the mail system).

Sure, we don't know what other programs you're running, but when one players starts getting robusted and another one immediately comes to his rescue when not a word was spoken and the second person had no way to know the attack was happening...yeah, it's not hard to tell what's up. If you are caught doing this, you will likely receive a permanent ban.

In-Game Stuff

Don't use information you shouldn't have or otherwise break the round.

This kind of shittery occurs in many different scenarios. It mainly entails doing preemptive actions to make the lives of antagonists harder, which is widely considered to be a dick move and can make the round boring on top of everything else. Takes this into consideration when dealing with special facilities:

  • Wizard's Den: Always off-limits, do not board or render it uninhabitable as a regular crew member.
  • Listening Post: Going over there at the start of the round 'just in case' is not welcome. You are free to pursue and engage known operatives, and may follow them into the station if you're in the possession of an agent card, but don't camps there, wall the post off, bolt the door shut, lie in ambush with your pod or the like. Provided that a reasonable amount of time has passed and if nuke can safely be ruled out as the current round type, non-antagonists are also allowed to visit the station under those circumstances. These restrictions don't apply to other antagonists, since nuke ops don't appear in the same game mode as traitors/vampires/etc.
  • Syndicate Shuttle: Always off-limits.

Other examples of what not to do:

  • As a security officer or detective, you immediately roam around the maintenance tunnels to sniff out traitors and scream your brains out, describing what's occurring. Generally, give things at least a few minutes to brew or wait for radio calls to respond to.
  • As an AI, you find a suspicious person walking around and decide to lock them into a room and scream for security to arrest them, refusing to let them out for any reason. This one is most definitely not okay, and will be violating your laws if that person or anybody else orders you to open up. Your laws can be stretched but not broken like this, and it's just really shitty anyway.
  • As a head of staff, you decide to take all of the AI modules and hide them to prevent people from using them. Obvious antagonists can be targeted with laws, but only if they're already causing havoc or the AI and cyborgs are getting in your way.

Overall, this generally boils down to the fact that you shouldn't talk about the current round outside of the game and you shouldn't start off the round by doing things whose only purpose is to screw over the bad guys. Doing reasonable things like an AI bolting its upload is okay, but otherwise acting as though you're not expecting to be brutally murdered in four minutes will make things more enjoyable when things do start to happen. Use your judgement and if most people think it's metagaming, then don't do it or risk everyone's wrath. People really hate this.

Lots of people on the Goonstation servers like to keep a persistent name, character and/or gimmick running round after round. It may be easy to target them for actions taken in previous rounds, but don't do it. That's metagaming too. If the person is a shitlord for ten straight rounds, adminhelp it instead of trying to deal with it in-game.


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