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What is and isn't crappy behavior is a long, nuanced discussion, so please don't take this document as a 100% inclusive list of everything that is considered Crappy Behavior, and by extension anything not mentioned here must, by definition, be perfectly acceptable. Ruleslawyers get out. | |||
==Basic Concepts== | |||
Griefing is basically anything that removes or significantly hampers the ability of others to enjoy the game without a good reason to do so. Murdering or permanently imprisoning other players, forcing them to ingest toxic or game-changing substances, or destroying parts of the station - that sort of thing. If you're not sure if something is considered griefing or not, think of it this way: If someone else did it to you, how would you react? | |||
==Obvious Grife== | |||
* Murdering another player or engineering circumstances such that their death is extremely likely. | |||
** Dismemberment too | |||
** Also converting a human player into a borg or a monkey against their will | |||
** For that matter, giving someone genetic disorders against their will | |||
* Imprisoning another player for a significant amount of time | |||
** Security officers etc. are obviously exempt from this, provided the sentence is reasonable | |||
* Destroying (or exposing to vacuum) parts of the station either intentionally or through massive negligence | |||
* Assisting an antagonist beyond the scope of your role on the station (a doctor is allowed and strongly encouraged to heal an antag that is brought to them, but isn't permitted to help the antagonist find new victims) | |||
* Chat / radio spam | |||
* Uploading antag-only laws (anything that alters who is considered human, anything that permits silicons to kill, maim, or otherwise wreak havoc) to the AI | |||
==Edge Cases== | |||
* Stealing someone's ID (generally only going to get you Yelled At if there isn't a trivially easy way for the victim to replace it) | |||
* Theft - if the item either isn't really important or can be easily replaced, we let the station handle it (security, heads). If it's not, you might get Yelled At. | |||
* Brutal assault - it's really hard to tell beyond the first whack or two if you're about to kill or cripple someone. | |||
* Clipping the AI's cameras - clipping a camera so the AI can't watch you steal the shoes from the HoP's locker is PROBABLY okay as long as everybody isn't doing it. (It might be nice to reconnect it afterwards though.) Indiscriminately running around clipping cameras just to be an anus will get you Yelled At. | |||
==Exceptions / When It Is Okay== | |||
* Pretty much anything an antag does short of breaking the rules against bigotry, sexual references, crashing the server, metagaming or otherwise abusing the game engine (using multiple BYOND accounts), or ignoring admin PMs is OK. | |||
** Mindslaves count as antags as long as they're still under the mindslave effect, and aren't ignoring their orders. | |||
** An antag can NOT order you to reveal secret chemistry recipes, not even if you're a mindslave. | |||
* Silicons (The AI, borgs) take great pleasure in finding ways to be the biggest assholes possible under their current laws. Note that silicons will follow the LETTER of the law, not the SPIRIT of the law, so don't come crying to the admins if you misspell your name on a onehuman law and have a borg cheerfully lobbing you out an airlock. | |||
* You are allowed and strongly encouraged to fight back if someone is attacking you. If you're not at least pretty darn sure they're an antag vs. just being an asshole, do what you can not to kill them (like if they run away, let them, and howl on the radio about what Jimmy Poo just tried to forcefeed you, that sort of thing) | |||
* The Floorpills Guideline: Making food, drinks, and pills that contain all sorts of horrible shit and leaving them places is a longstanding SS13 tradition and a protected form of religious expression. If you ingest something you find, and suddenly turn into a lime green gibbering monkey with tourette's syndrome and a crippling addiction to bath salts, that's on you, buddy. Maybe you'll be smarter about eating floor pills next time! | |||
==What To Do About It== | |||
* Use a little judgment - if this is something other players can resolve, try that first. Report minor theft and assault to Security, if there's only a tile or two that's damaged, get Engineering on it, that sort of thing. If something is either beyond the playerbase's ability to handle, or would require a significant and coordinated effort from several players, jump straight to adminhelp. | |||
* Anything that breaks the 'no bigotry or sexual references' rule goes straight to adminhelp, no exceptions. |
Revision as of 15:09, 28 June 2016
What is and isn't crappy behavior is a long, nuanced discussion, so please don't take this document as a 100% inclusive list of everything that is considered Crappy Behavior, and by extension anything not mentioned here must, by definition, be perfectly acceptable. Ruleslawyers get out.
Basic Concepts
Griefing is basically anything that removes or significantly hampers the ability of others to enjoy the game without a good reason to do so. Murdering or permanently imprisoning other players, forcing them to ingest toxic or game-changing substances, or destroying parts of the station - that sort of thing. If you're not sure if something is considered griefing or not, think of it this way: If someone else did it to you, how would you react?
Obvious Grife
- Murdering another player or engineering circumstances such that their death is extremely likely.
- Dismemberment too
- Also converting a human player into a borg or a monkey against their will
- For that matter, giving someone genetic disorders against their will
- Imprisoning another player for a significant amount of time
- Security officers etc. are obviously exempt from this, provided the sentence is reasonable
- Destroying (or exposing to vacuum) parts of the station either intentionally or through massive negligence
- Assisting an antagonist beyond the scope of your role on the station (a doctor is allowed and strongly encouraged to heal an antag that is brought to them, but isn't permitted to help the antagonist find new victims)
- Chat / radio spam
- Uploading antag-only laws (anything that alters who is considered human, anything that permits silicons to kill, maim, or otherwise wreak havoc) to the AI
Edge Cases
- Stealing someone's ID (generally only going to get you Yelled At if there isn't a trivially easy way for the victim to replace it)
- Theft - if the item either isn't really important or can be easily replaced, we let the station handle it (security, heads). If it's not, you might get Yelled At.
- Brutal assault - it's really hard to tell beyond the first whack or two if you're about to kill or cripple someone.
- Clipping the AI's cameras - clipping a camera so the AI can't watch you steal the shoes from the HoP's locker is PROBABLY okay as long as everybody isn't doing it. (It might be nice to reconnect it afterwards though.) Indiscriminately running around clipping cameras just to be an anus will get you Yelled At.
Exceptions / When It Is Okay
- Pretty much anything an antag does short of breaking the rules against bigotry, sexual references, crashing the server, metagaming or otherwise abusing the game engine (using multiple BYOND accounts), or ignoring admin PMs is OK.
- Mindslaves count as antags as long as they're still under the mindslave effect, and aren't ignoring their orders.
- An antag can NOT order you to reveal secret chemistry recipes, not even if you're a mindslave.
- Silicons (The AI, borgs) take great pleasure in finding ways to be the biggest assholes possible under their current laws. Note that silicons will follow the LETTER of the law, not the SPIRIT of the law, so don't come crying to the admins if you misspell your name on a onehuman law and have a borg cheerfully lobbing you out an airlock.
- You are allowed and strongly encouraged to fight back if someone is attacking you. If you're not at least pretty darn sure they're an antag vs. just being an asshole, do what you can not to kill them (like if they run away, let them, and howl on the radio about what Jimmy Poo just tried to forcefeed you, that sort of thing)
- The Floorpills Guideline: Making food, drinks, and pills that contain all sorts of horrible shit and leaving them places is a longstanding SS13 tradition and a protected form of religious expression. If you ingest something you find, and suddenly turn into a lime green gibbering monkey with tourette's syndrome and a crippling addiction to bath salts, that's on you, buddy. Maybe you'll be smarter about eating floor pills next time!
What To Do About It
- Use a little judgment - if this is something other players can resolve, try that first. Report minor theft and assault to Security, if there's only a tile or two that's damaged, get Engineering on it, that sort of thing. If something is either beyond the playerbase's ability to handle, or would require a significant and coordinated effort from several players, jump straight to adminhelp.
- Anything that breaks the 'no bigotry or sexual references' rule goes straight to adminhelp, no exceptions.